Isn't it funny how within 24h the approach to #Keybase changed from "it's secure and awesomesauce, use it for everything!!1!" to "I just use it to share stuff but warn users not to do sensitive stuff there"?

No, actually it's not funny. Because it keeps happening:

1. a new shiny startup does X in an open source but centralized way
2. a lot of "experts" saying how great it is; some greybeards warn that it's centralized but nobody listens - it's so shiny and cool!
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3. startup makes a horrible business decision or gets bought up by someone onerous; it's inevitable, it's a startup.
4. everybody's shocked, shocked™, but still go with "using it for non-sensitive stuff, too late to move on"
5. rinse, repeat.

Do you know why we don't get a proper, decentralized, easy to use software solutions? This is why. Because we keep letting shitty startups crowd out the good projects.

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Security is hard. Decentralization is hard. Usability is hard.

Being first to market is *easier* if you drop some, or most, of these.

So, shitty startups get to market first, and then crowd out the decent-but-necessarily-slower projects.

Every time you recommend a tool that follows this pattern of abuse, you are enabling it. You, personally, become a part of the problem. You, personally, help a shitty startup crowd out a decent project.

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@rysiek

recemtly I heard Bradley Kuhn making this argument: IRC os old an crank but it has resisted the onslaught of the proprietary chat techs

Why ?

Because its people clung on it

It's not the tech, its the culture

In some cases it's the anthropologies that drive the tech, not the other way around

and geeks suffer from dopamine pollution as everybody else 🤷‍♂️

@mmu_man @AbbieNormal @rysiek I'd disagree, sadly. I don't think IRC has really survived the proprietary silos.

The fact that you can still go on IRC and see channels, etc. -- well, great.

But instead of the old days when a bazillion people were *actually* on and banging their keyboards constantly, now it's a bunch of mostly dead channels with lurkers logging.

In contrast, Slack and Discord seem to be where all the action has gone.

Probably because IRC stayed old school text-only.

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